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Issue Number 7 5
More Waypoint Problems
Another air carrier crew had a problem
entering the Charlotte, NC, area:
✍ “We mistook Barretts Mountain
(BZM) to LINCO intersection. Instead we
started BZM to LYNNO intersection.
LINCO is 203 degree radial off BZM, and
LYNNO is 115 degree radial off BZM,
both about 25 miles. It is suggested that
intersections which sound so similar not
be used in such a close area to another.”
(# 108815, 108919)
The ASRS issued an Alert Bulletin to
the appropriate FAA offices with a recommendation
that the name of one of
the intersections be changed. This is
exactly what has been done—LYNNO
is now PLUMM on the MAJIC SEVEN
arrival to Charlotte (MAJIC.MAJIC7).
The system works!
International Events
The system also works in international
airspace, as seen in the following
report:
✍ “On R22 between Alaska and Japan
(the ‘N’ route). We requested Tokyo Radio
to obtain clearance from FL330 to FL290
after NOGAL. HF communication was
spotty, but I read back the clearance
twice. Each time, Tokyo acknowledged by
reading back the whole clearance. (I assumed
he did this because of HF. Perhaps
he was trying to clarify the fix.) Passing
NOGAL, I called, ‘Departing FL330 for
FL290.’ When we called ‘reaching
FL290,’ Tokyo told us we should be at
Over the years, the ASRS has
received many reports regarding
navigational identifiers that sound
similar to other fixes, or are not
spelled in a logical fashion. Two
caught my eye recently and were the
impetus for this article. The first incident
was reported by two crew members.
One of these reporters stated:
✍ “Enroute to PDX from DEN. Near
BOI cleared direct DUFUR, direct PDX.
Inadvertently spelled DUFER into the
FMC. Note: DUFER is 14 DME, ILS 16R
Seattle. Since the course seemed reasonable,
I did not double-check for route deviation
DUFER to PDX. A lesson learned!
I am surprised that two intersections
would be so close with similar names.”
(# 258559, 258669)
SEA is about 50 miles farther from
BOI than PDX, and about 17 degrees
farther to the north. The ARTCC Controller
rectified the situation by a
gentle, “Where are you going?”
The ASRS has issued a For Your Information
Notice (see the sidebar about
AB’s and FYI’S on page 5) to the appropriate
agencies and FAA offices in an
attempt to rectify this problem. It was
recommended that the name be
changed on one of the intersections.
We all hope that one of the spellings
will not be changed to DOOFR!
Where do they find
these names?
About twenty years ago,
the FAA decided to use only
five letter names for airspace
fixes so that all fixes would fit
into a nice, clean computer
format. Gone are romantic
sounding names such as
CEDAR RIDGE, now CEDES,
variously pronounced
“Seeds” or “See-Dees”), and
ROSE FLAT, now FLAKK. By
the way, CEDES is in
California, SEEDS is in Texas.
Two more examples:
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